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america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm would be generated by the markets and the loss of confidence in american governance and the american economy, but that's not necessarily going to be the case. we still have a few days left. a white house official told me that there have been no progress over the last couple of days, but an aide to senator harry reid told me there's still a 50/50 chance we get a mini deal that would put off the effects of the cliff at least temporarily and a 50/50 chance of that happening before january 1st. so even though there's a small number of days, sometimes the urgency of a deadline forces lawmakers to overcome differences they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >
the fiscal cliff. the last minute scrambling at this house going on behind closed doors. >> and the redskins pull it off. they knock off the cowboys. >> welcome to news 4 midday. >> it's new year's eve, monday, december 31, 2012. >> it's down to the wire. we are less than 24 hours away from hitting the so-called fiscal a cliff right now. the house and senate are striking a deal oh avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts. derek ward is live with more on what's happening today. >> the end is near. that's the end of the year, of course. what about the path that ends at the end of the fiscal cliff. senators should be back at it. the house reconvened this morning. such new year's eve appearances are on the hill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden kept in place to avoid $200 billion in tax increases. broad stroke spending cuts and domestic and defense spending. they would take effect gradually over a period beginning at midnight if the white house and congress can't reconcile their differences. it appeared to have been movement on the cost of living increases for social securit
't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ >> 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here tr
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. fox chief white house correspondent ed henry has been at the white house, covering it all day. ed, where do things stand? >> good to see you, dana, you've been through the budget battles. the bottom line, there's not a lot of progress, so the white house is here and waiting and looking at what kind of last minute negotiations were going on, on capitol hill behind closed doors, but the senate majority leader harry reid a short time ago going home and basically saying that he will be back in the senate until tomorrow at 11 a.m., suggests that we're edging closer and closer to that cliff, but what the president did today. as he did something rare, he went on the sunday talk show for the first time in three years, went on nbc's meet the press and the last time he did one of the shows was promote health care reform today and try and back republicans back into a corner and suggested that maybe he's starting to play the blame game and saying if we go off the cliff it's going to be republicans fault. take a listen to what he had to say. >> not b
some republicans in the senate and also from the house in order to aavert this fiscal cliff. the white house right now is saying they want the threshold for the income tax rates at a quarter million dollars. that might be difficult to get republican support on that, so we'll see if that changes, suzanne. >> do we expect that the president is going to come back early from his hawaii vacation if anything happens on the senate side? clearly, he could get things done from hawaii as well, but it could be at least symbolically for him to return to washington. >> reporter: definitely. we expect that he will be heading back to washington, d.c. he was supposed to be here through the new year. i will tell you nothing is official on the schedule that he's definitely going back to d.c., but the sense you get from the white house is that it's more an issue of when and not if. if there is a bill that goes through the senate, the president will have to be there in order to perhaps twist some arms and certainly the optics are important. if we go over the fiscal cliff, suzanne, you've covered the white
at the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll bring you the latest developments on that any minute now. >> also, we'll check up on health care, one of the year's best performing sectors. we'll find out if it's going to run out of steam in the new year and name some names for you coming up. >> and later on, big sky, big jump in estate taxes if congress fails to reach a deal on the cliff. we'll talk to a montana rancher who is pretty upset. coming up, montana's governor brian schweitzer is going to weigh in. >> looks like the meeting may have broken up. there goes nancy pelosi, and we are told now house speaker boehner may have already left, and, no, they are not talking to reporters. nancy is looking for her car to leave the white house, and we're not getting anybody talking to the reporters at this point, so maybe we'll get some -- and i'm told now the futures market in the after-hours pegs is extending the losses that we've been seeing in the last hour of trade. maybe we'll get eamon javers to get in front of the camera when we come back. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, w
, which is in session. house republicans say they passed two bills already. on top of the fiscal cliff, there is the milk cliff, which could add to the weekly shopping bill in a big way. early next year, fight about raising the debt ceiling. after the scathing report on september 11 attack in benghazi, libbia, we thought that four mid-level government workers had taken the fall for the security failures at the state department. it turns out that is far from the case. we'll explain. it's been a year since the tornado flattened their church. but only now can the rebuilding begin. all because of red tape. grapevine, why being too attractive cost a woman her job. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "the five." shop in saint paul has been warned to stop selling candy smokes with bubble gum cigars after they are trying to prevent kids from trying the real stuff one day. does anyone want to tie it throt is a nexus between candy cigarettes and bubble gum cigars and taking up smoking? any takers? smokers a
this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill are unclear what will happen. will it be a tarp moment like in 2008 when the tarp legislation got voted down and president bush was imploring the fell mrow republicans. it's a bitter pill to swallow. they voted it down and the markets plunged 5, 600, 700 points and everybody figured it out. what's going to happen with the markets, they're closed new years day, but when they open january 2nd, we have several consecutive days the markets have gone down not by a ton, but if they're plunging on january 2nd, that's what they're more nervous about. >> andrea. >> we've heard a lot of names in these behind closed doors talks, we've heard biden, w
on a websie about the fiscal cliff. we will learn later today as the principles gather at the white house for a meeting that will get underway at 3:00 p.m.. the president, vice president, john boehner, nancy pelosi, and harry reid and mitch mcconnell and if there are any statements after that meeting, and if the president has anything to say, we will have coverage of that on c-span and on c-span radio and always on c-span.org. thank you for joining us and enjoy the rest of your weekend. we'll be back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. eastern time. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> in live look at the executive mansion where negotiations on the looming fiscal cliff move down pennsylvania avenue to the white house today. house and senate leaders meeting with the president to continue work. the meeting is set for 3:00 p.m. and we will monitor any news that comes from that. c-span cameras standing by. now back to the capital. the senate is in for business today. lawmakers are working on the foreign intelligence surveillance
house, on avoiding the fiscal cliff. president obama meets with four congressional leaders, boehner, pelosi, reid, and o'connell. the rhetoric getting more angry and disconnected in final moments. i want to bring in michigan senator debbie stabenow now. thank you so much for being with us. >> sure. >> it really is disconnected. everywhere i go, people ask me a simple question. why can't they get this deal done? harry reid got up and said we're just procedurally not going to get this done in time, it caused people to say why not? this is the most anticipated problem we've ever had. it just -- regular folks folks look at washington and say what is going on. >> ali, i'm here and saying what is going on. there are basically three pieces to solving the deficit, right? one is spending and we have agrowed to $1.6 trillion in spending cuts in the last two years and the other is spending cuts. we put forth spending cuts of over $700 billion. not cutting care to seniors, but cutting overpayments to insurance companies. the burden of the deficit must not just be on the middle class. the wealth
to offer a fiscal cliff deal, perhaps a scaled back proposal, but, still, no indication that's going to happen this afternoon. the senate is in session. the house returns sunday. they will take a vote sunday night on another piece of legislation. the senate has been working on other legislation, not related to the fiscal cliff, and that has some folks in washington speculating this afternoon's meeting in the white house is nothing but show. the one senior democrat says it is a serious effort. >> well, this is not for show, but a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try to get at least a small package, small deal together before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and the deal with some of the unemployment issues. >> now, that deal, the small deal that the congressman is talking about, speculation perhaps that includes a tax rate tax increase for families earning $500,000 a year, mid way point almost between what democrats and republicans had in the opening offer. perhaps up employment extension and other spendin
here on cnn. >>> nine days left before you face a new year with higher taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >>> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican mike crapo was taken to jail in alexandria, virginia, after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. senator crapo has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states, in the mountains of california up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. lake-effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flight
facing a crippling fiscal cliff in just three days, the president calls congressional leaders together and says, you fix it. no, he doesn't offer any new plan from the white house, no compromise. instead the president tells the senate to come up with a deal and the same senate that hasn't passed a budget in years. and the marks don't like it at all, 158 points now tanking and falling further in the after market and we'll have to see how asia opens on monday. it could be ugly. the headlines are falling fast and furious. we're all over it "the kudlow report" starts right now. >>> welcome. i'm michelle caruso-cabrera in for larry kudlow. a lot happened in just the last couple of hours. >> michelle, there's considerably more optimism after the white house meeting between the president and the four bipartisan leaders than there was earlier in the day. mitch mcconnell and harry reid say they're going to come out and try to hammer out a bipartisan deal that can pass the senate with enough republican votes to convince the house to act and even president obama who had been concerned that they w
of washington tonight. the white house confirms there will be a face-to-face meeting on the fiscal cliff tomorrow. the president, speaker boehner, harry reid, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell will all be there. this could be the beginning of a real endgame for the fiscal cliff conflict. we will keep you updated on any new developments tonight and throughout the day tomorrow on cnbc. >>> now the american psychiatric association says it is okay to give antidepressants to people who are grieving over a recently lost loved one. again, these people are not diagnosed with clinical depression. these are people who have suffered a real loss. can a pill really help you with that? here now is beverly hills psychiatrist dr. carol lieberman. is this a good idea? >> thank you. the whole mental health system is actually falling apart and it goes beyond bereavement and depression. actually, bereavement has a lot of similarities to major depression or at least in some people's cases. the depression comes from loss. so whether it's the loss of a job or a loss of a relationship or a loss of a loved one there
dive. >> all right. so what can you leave us with? housing is good? >> fiscal cliff is bad. >> is that a net-net? >> i think the housing is good but the housing isn't great. everybody's talking about housing like it's going to carry us some place. it's just not going to drag. but it's not going to be a boost and i'm still very concerned about where the economy is going. >> is there any way that we've over -- sort of had too much anxiety and angst about the fiscal cliff or not? >> i don't think there's been much anxiety. and i talked to my brother and sister in suburban detroit. they're not in the financial world and they're always talking about the fiscal cliff. my wife has the same thing with her brothers and sisters, they're not in finance but it's what everybody's talking about. everybody's worried about it. but the experts tell us that we're not going to go over the cliff so they know it's there but they don't think we're going to go over it. so we'll see. >> i hope you're right. thank you for being here. >> coming up, is washington ready to go cliff diving? we're going
'd go over the fiscal cliff. >> spending cuts this is based on good intentions, a framework or agree to agree to spending cuts down the road and this is the criticism that historically, sort of ad nauseam, that there are those good intentions that never through. >> all of the republicans will hear grover norquist recite over and over, every time they promise spending cuts in exchange for tax hikes, the tax hikes came, the spending cuts never came. >> and how long will the road be in terms of what the subpoenaing cuts might or might not be? that will prolong the uncertainty in the market. and with the ceo conference call in the 6:00 hour, that should be very interesting. will we feel the effect of this in the first quarter earnings and gdp, other economic data points. >> it puts republican caucus in the house in the position of having to decide whether no deal is better than a bad deal. >> you know, melissa, if i could chime in, one thing, you didn't hear the president talking about the debt ceiling, and the treasury secretary says we'll start running up against the debt ceiling on mo
pass a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, but is that optimism justified even if the senate can can come together and craft a deal? a very big if at this point and what are the chances that house speaker john boehner can get members of his congress to go along with the deal. joining me now perry bacon and lynn sweet. i want to start with you because i read something that you wrote an article recently in which you said basically that the rumors of the tea party's demise have been greatly exaggerated noting their key role in refusing to go along with john boehner's tax plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year. the fiscal cliff debate has illustrated then during influence of the tea party and the power of the conservative party. boehner can't guarantee that his members won't face primary challenges from the right so there's little surprise they won't follow his lead. >> mcconnell's not going agree to something that all other republicans are opposed to because he's a republican, too, and he has to worry about a primary, potentially, as well. the core of this i
it is country to go over the fiscal cliff to give the president leverage. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the clip for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets the additional tax revenue for programs, cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> with me now in studio is democrat gerald nadler. that was john barasso. you are a watchdog for graphics. we put up the wrong graphic there. your reaction to the statement there that the president wants the country to go over the fiscal cliff, they think it's for better democratic leverage. >> that's nonsense. the president made extraordinary concessions to the republicans to try to go over -- to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote
. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority lead
to tackle the so-called fiscal cliff. he landed about 30 minutes ago. you see him getting off of the air force one. the president shut his vacation short do deal with this economic crisis. according to a tweet from a white house spokesman, the president spoke with all four congressional leaders before leaving hawaii for washington, and the senate is reconvening today. now the automatic spending cuts and the tax increases that make up the fiscal cliff, they're set to take effect in just five days. much more on the fiscal cliff crisis, the effort to reach some kind of agreement later this hour. we're going go live to capitol hill for the latest as the senate returns to work. that is coming up in about 20 minutes. >>> and president obama's going to have another cabinet position to fill for the new year. we learned a short time ago apa lisa jackson is stepping down after the president's state of the union speech in january. jackson starting with the agency as a staff level scientist back in 1987. during her tenure as administrator she tackled pollution problems in poor community communities.
that's not allowed. >> teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff with just 36 days to go until tax increases kick, in the white house and congress are playing a high stakes game of let's make a deal. >> only in america believes there has to be this what i believe to be really farce ical now surely -- the nature of the world is very fast moving, america has huge economic problems, heading for another fiscal cliff, everyone laughing at you from afenway park the american public sick and tired of all the games going on and there are you, grover norquist, a very bright guy still resolutely saying a pledge is a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many of your own party are now saying you know, what it doesn't make sense to have this irresolute position anymore. >> two things, the pledge is not for life. but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king, who tried to weasel out of it -- shame on him as the "new york sun" says tonight. i hope his wife understands commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> whoa, hang on, hang on. that was a bit below t
on vacation. washington lawmakers are on holiday. there's still no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is a week away. hampton pearson is in washington on the stalemate. >> as early as the day after christmas, congress and the white house will have to start to deal with what president obama called the real consequences of going over that fiscal cliff. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> a short-term deal won't just focus on tax rates. the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the se
of the fiscal cliff here is not risk off. it's risk protation into those areas of the investable landscape. look at emerging markets, lock at europe. they are decoupling. if anything, price is still very bull ir. i would rather listen to price. >> why do you say it's still very bullish? >> they recovered almost completely the loss which means the markets thinks tax puts will still be in play. the market is saying it's okay, you know, we've had an increase in market cap this year in the s&p 500 over $1 trillion. >> right. >> that's more than the cliff. >> let me go to my facebook friend michael carr. you speak washington ese. the house is convening. the president is -- >> doesn't it just make you sick? >> the were inthing you want to watch is eachon javers. i thought it was a perfect graphic. it's fabulous. you can't make it up. >> what do you do when you don't know what's going to happen, and you really don't. if you can get the debt limit thing right and guess how it's going to turn out or guess that it's actually going to do something, all evidence to the contrary, how would you invest, and wh
. >> reporter: the night before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most americans. huge defense cuts kick in, which some republicans claim barack obama favors. >> it's obvious the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama blamed republicans. >> they say their biggest priority is dealing with the deficit, but the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure taxes don't go up on the rich. >> reporter: the senate minority leader says -- >> i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: enter vice president joe biden, called by mcconnell. can the senate veteran help congress stumble to a deal on the
a lot of talk and very little action covering a fiscal cliff showdown here in washington. as the rhetorical war shifted from the white house to baltalfield, president obama took the rare step of granting an interview to "meet the press" which took place this morning. >> you signed the legislation setting up the legislation 17 months ago. how accountable are you for the fact that washington can't get anything done and we're at this deadline, again? >> i have to tell you, david. if you look at my track record over the last two years, i cut spending by over $1 trillion in 2011. >> joining us now to examine the david gregory interview and the coverage of this fiscal cliff showdown. bob cusack manager of "the hill." what does it say about the state of the budgetary wars that president obama chose to go on a sunday talk show. >> he is doing this interview why congress is trying to do it. very critical of congress and i think this interview wasn't exactly combative. he challenged him on it. >> who challenged who? >> david gregory challenged obama on some points but made $1 trill
. the big story here, the u.s. is officially going over the fiscal cliff. the senate at this hour has not moved the bill to the floor. until that happens, the house won't act. has signaled there will be no miscall cliff action tonight. tonight on the last "special report" of 2012, although president obama says the deal is in sight, what does it look like and will it pass either chamber? we will cover the negotiations from every angle and the the f fall-out. secretary clinton has been hospitalized because of a blood clot between her brain and skull but they are confident she will make full recovery. there is another taming report on security failures. send this back to new york and the colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan: getting redty to party. the last segment we took a look at the serious moments on "the five" this year. now let's get to the good stuff. roll the tape. ♪ notice >> are we non- >> bob. >> sorry. ♪ ♪ notice ♪ ♪ >> hostess brand maker of twinkies. [ laughter ] >> lockness monster was a hoax. >> what? that is a hoax? it's not real? >> oh, man. i'
and spending cuts this holiday seas season. only eight days left until america goes off the fiscal cliff. both sides are taking a holiday break, and all we're getting is the blame game. some republicans suggesting that the doomsday scenario that's now unfolding is all part of a white house plan. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at thement bot of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new program. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> white house correspondent breanna keilar has the envy of all assignments of traveling with the president and joins us live from honolulu, hawaii, this morning. breanna, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning to you, alina. the bottom line here, beginning this week, is that substantive conversations between democrats and republicans are basically nonexistent. the white house and senate democrats are not in communication not only with house republi
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we will talk about the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff. we continue with david jackson, a white house reporter. we will talk about president obama's cabinet for his second term. we will wrap up the program with michael gordon talking about what is next for iraq. thank you for watching this edition of the "washington journal." we'll see you again tomorrow morning at 7:00 eastern time. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> today on c-span, the impact of student loan debt on students and parents, followed by a look at space exploration and innovation. later, a discussion on nasa's budget and mission. >> my first conservative was a friend of a friend -- i never met a conservative in my life. i was impressed by him, because he answered questions, he was very composed. he was not rancorous. he tried to gauge his responses to the level of my request. over the course -- and not understand of anything this guy is saying, but he is so damn polite. maybe there's something in his convictions. >> playwrigh
're hearing aing you significant possibility we go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. both sides are saying that. you play thad sound bite from john baroso, saying it's politically expedestrianent for the president to go off the fiscal cliff. but both sides are saying, you know what? maybe it's better to go off the cliff. politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last w
the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into recession. judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's a long way to go. here's the day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been prevented with a single vote in the republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> it is somewhat like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else, i'm going to shoot my child if you don't do what i want done. you don't want to shoot your child. there's no republ
to get our fiscal house in order, are you of like mind how you feel about this? >> i'd like to avoid going over the cliff. i do concur with mr. greenspan that i think this fiscal cliff is a classic, washington, dysfunctional manufactured crisis. we created this. the bigger cliff is the fact that this country is broke. we're beyond $16 trillion in debt and unless we get serious and get our hands around that our kids and our grand kids will never recover. >> congressman, what are you looking for? you said you're unlikely to support a deal made by the president and speaker boehner. so what is it that you want that you're not getting? >> what i won't do maria is vote for any tax increases on small business, on any american. we've already voted in the house to extend the bush tax rates for every american. we've done that twice. in the senate, they've voted to extend the bush tax rates for people below $250,000. i can't support that, but why not bring both bills up before the house and see which one the house and the senate will support? >> but with such a stringent attitude, i mean, you'r
. >> there's something fascinating to all of this. ben bernanke gave this situation the name fiscal cliff which sounds very dramatic and very scary. but what it is is an act of congress that they actually voted for. 174 republicans voted for this law that would then take effect on january 1st with all these spending cuts in it, and democrats -- 95 democrats in the house voted for it, 74 votes for it in the united states senate, and now congress is afraid of actually going through something that it voted for to occur on january 1st because it all feels too dramatic to them. and so there's something very peculiar. the crisis that congress is facing is can they undo something that they voted for, and can they undo it by new year's eve? >> it's irony and paradox upon irony. remember the reason the fiscal cliff is supposed to be so dangerous and the reason why so many people in washington are worried about the fiscal cliff is it's too much deficit reduction too fast. so all of this takes place against a debate about how to reduce the budget deficit. that's why you get into this theater of the
of the tax rates. we did deal with the fiscal cliff issues weeks have passed that. it's harry reid and the president that have yet to come up with something. if it was so easy, if they thought they had a solution to it, why didn't on friday they come to the table and actually pass something? the pressure is on them, what can they pass in the senate? >> harold, you know the politics of this but you also know the markets and how they've been reacting and wall street and corporate america more generally. is there new pessimism that we're, a, not going to get a deal and not solve the issue anyway? >> big disappointment. people outside of washington understand clearly. a couple hundred billion over ten years separating both sides. the question becomes can washington still govern itself? two, there's a realization we're in the middle of a small recovery. if we find ourselves not able to resolve this moment, it retards and slows and undermines what we see ourselves doing going forward. finally, for the life of me as someone who sfrd there, it was so distressful to watch both sides yell at
on capitol hill, senators are hard at work trying to avoid taking the country off ha fiscal cliff. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell arrived earlier today at the capital for talks. yesterday he and other leaders met the white house with the president and vice president aiming to avoid tax hikes and may vote on a deal as early as sunday. >>> police now have a woman in custody in connection with the death of a man pushed in front of a new york city subway train on thursday. detectives arrested a woman who they said said things that implicated hadder in the death sun and doe sen. this is the sketch of that suspect. >>> in india, the young woman gang raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at the hospital where she was being treated. employees plan to add murder charges against the six suspects already in custody and arrested on rape. the charges will be filed next thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more protection for women and police expect more demonstrations in the days to come. >>> a large crowd cheers the first couple to get married
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